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Posted by lettheworldslip on 2006.03.21 at 03:59
I asked the Mormons, the last time they visited me, whether they thought that sometimes people want to believe in something so badly that they are willing to believe anything. The South Park episode on Scientology also brought up this point. The Mormons believe that God speaks in a small voice in the head, upon asking for answers with faith. However, upon asking for answers with faith, one has already accepted one answer - that God exists.

The basis for the Christian faith is the Bible, and yet some Christians suggest taking the Bible as allegory, and not as unalterable truth. Without this document, written by men supposedly inspired by God, where is the basis for faith? Is it in the historical record? Show me the basis!

I may be preaching to the choir, but speak to me on this.

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sister_of_eve at 2006-05-21 18:10 (UTC) (Link)
I would say the Christian faith has survived through history, more importantly word of mouth, an Iron Fist, and the original written word. However, the Iron Fist was what established the Church in Italy, therefore making it the International Church of the archaic world. The "original" written word is quite possibly nowhere to be found. It, for all we know, was written on a napkin in a "bar", if you will. All that survives are the interpretations of interpretations, interpretations of poor handwriting, all in all faith is faith, you have it or you don't. Sometimes people find their faith through fear and others through miracles. Who knows?
fuhrling_seeker at 2006-05-28 05:36 (UTC) (Link)

The Bible

The Bible was written by man, for man. End of story. Sure, God may have "inspired" them, but how they interpretted the ideals is their prerogative. What I am trying to say is that since they wrote it, let them mess around with how to take it, all I, spiritually, know is that "God" is love. End of statement. Do people honestly believe "he", althought I think she, will love you less because you worship in a different way? Everyone worships differently, but it is the fact that they believe that should be honored, after all, things do happen that science can't explain.
If that made any form of sense, . . . yoohoo?
James
lettheworldslip at 2006-05-28 11:56 (UTC) (Link)

Re: The Bible

I s'pose so. Many folks I've talked to say, "If there's an error in the Bible, it's because of human interpretation." I just have trouble when people take the Bible as perfect, and stand by the words translated through so many languages as if they have a literal meaning ascribed to them by God.

I suppose fundamentalism and atheism are what I have trouble with.
fuhrling_seeker at 2006-05-28 23:48 (UTC) (Link)

Re: The Bible

Yeah, I get what you are saying. Even though I am not practising (I can never spell that darn word) my religion, as is my right, my Grandma says its the meaning of the story that counts and not how it is written.
Of course the Bible is not literal, if it was, rivers would run blood as soon as someone said "I am Moses" or whatever.
I mean, Chritianity has been around for thousands of years, and by word of mouth or letters, translations will go amiss, so what people view as truth now, might mean something entirely different in the future.
Mike
fightingdreamer at 2006-07-22 01:11 (UTC) (Link)

Re: The Bible

That's not exactly true. The entire basis of our society is centred around truths that can never change. For instance, the most commonly used in this situation is murder. It's wrong to murder, we know that. The Bible says that it's wrong and there's no way you can interpret that any differently.

Personally, I believe that if the Bible is important to God, which I'm sure we can all agree it is, He'd make sure that it always holds the values that He wants us to follow.

Another important thing to know about the Bible is that the timeline is much more than two or three years. It's seperated in to the Old and New Testaments for a reason. After Jesus was born a new agreement was made between God and humanity. In the Old Testament, God gave laws to the priests and judges so that they could keep Israel in line. They all had to follow the laws and were responsible to God's representatives at the time. Now, however, we don't need to go through priests to pay for our sin, we're responsible to Him directly.

Also, you may have noticed I've been using Him and He for God. This is purely based on tradition as that's the way he's referred to in the Bible and the Hebrew language. In actual fact, God doesn't really have a gender. We're all created in His image, both males and females, which means every quality of humanity(the good ones mind you) is from God. He's both and He's neither. Unlike Jesus, who was a man. Very confusing. Again, referring to God as a male is done only due to the way it was written.

Mike
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